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alfonso (User)
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Re:hurler draft 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Hey Spike. I put the draft results on a spreadsheet. It's for 2010, but a second tab has the 2009 results too.
Hopefully the link works. Let me know if it doesn't.
Hurler Draft Spreadsheet
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spike (User)
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very nice. thanks, alfonso. you are a wizard , a true star . your hoodlums outfield is quite impressive but i wonder about that reach for beckham when you already had hill. defending your co-championship is not going to be easy when there were several other teams drafted that are almost as good as the crackers  which was the better 5th round reach , beckham at #53 or butler at #51?
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Re:hurler draft 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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I too would like some feedback.
I'm not all that confident in my results. I think my OF is strong, but I most likely spent too many picks early filling all those slots. I certainly waited forever and a day on a catcher, with my first being a Molina, and it wasn't even the good Molina. I also filled out my MI spots very late as well, but I was happy to get Cabrerra that late.
I am not all that used to playing in 12 team leagues, let alone ones with this many spots, so despite the numerous mocks I did to prepare, I still managed to incorrectly estimate who would be left to my next pick during the final 10 rounds or so.
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spike (User)
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good team dullboy. except you punted saves along with catchers
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Re:hurler draft 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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That is true, Spike. I figured I'd grab as many potential 200k SPs I could, and just fill up with strong MR guys with a shot at the job. Wish I had got Thornton. I did get Wilson pretty late, and Sherril, and if Rivera gets hurt, I think I have that covered as well with three potential replacements (doh).
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Taking Hill in the 3rd was totally an accident and it led to the Beckham reach. After taking two OF's to start off the draft I wanted to start filling in the corners in the next round. I was debating between Morneau, Youkilis, A Ram, and Morales when I guess I ran out of time and the computer took Hill for me. I spent the next few rounds compensating for my mistake. I took Kendry in the 4th and in the 5th I reached for Beckham. I wanted to get my corners before the position thinned out and I wasn't confident Beckham would be around next time it came to me. I'm happy with the way I worked around it, but I'd rather not think about what could have been. I guess it could have turned out worse...
The Crackers have a good club. I'd say the hitters on your bench are kinda redundant and you'll probably have to drop a few of them since we don't have a lot of bench spots. Last year you took 3 catchers in the first 10 rounds which put you in a hole. This year you have VMart and some depth and you did a better job in drafting them. Your team is definitely dangerous this year.
Dullboys, I like your team too but your catching sucks and you're punting saves. But you drafted some set up men who could take over, so all's not lost there. (BTW, we can talk about Thornton if you're interested). Your bats aren't the sexiest, but they're vets and should keep you in the mix. I really like your SP and you have the right idea in shopping them. I'd send out offers of SP1/C in return for SP2(SP3/C to the other managers.
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Last Edit: 2010/03/16 16:56 By alfonso.
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At this point, I wish I had completely punted saves, rather than the half-ass attempt I made in the draft. I could have got a better Molina, or even the polish wonder in Chicago...
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the biggest oversight of the draft was that somehow nick the stick johnson didn`t get drafted. it was in the 1st batch of waiver claims that he landed on the nick adenharts
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The Sofa Kings had a very painful draft day. I made the mistake of telling my wife the wrong time for the draft, which ended up blowing up in my face at the worst possible time. I had a very painful tooth extraction on Friday and was (over)medicating the pain so my communication skills, to say the least, were off a bit. Needless to say, the was a distracted draft at best. I was of two minds on whom to select with the first pick- HanRam or Pujols. I really wanted Hanley and talked myself into Pujols. That altered the composition of my team and the end of the second round really was my turning point. I thought either Jacoby or Sizemore might slip to me. Since neither of them did, I was 'stuck' with Ichiro to pair with Zimmerman and Albert. From there, I think things got worse as I felt like I reached on almost every subsequent pick. That wheel is tough because every time I filled up my queue, it would be diminished when it got back to me. Anyone I really wanted had to be drafted a round too soon. At least that's how my Vicodin-addled brain experienced it Sunday. Chapman should be a fun ride as Dusty rides him into the ground. Why the Reds entrust their precious young arms to this man is beyond my understanding. And ideally Bumgarner sees some time with the Giants this year. I like, don't love, my pitching staff. I have some saves, ideally some will come from Madson. I have speed but need production and health from some of my OFs- Jones and Soriano to be exact. Garrett Jones was a low risk-high reward at that point in the draft, hopefully he hasn't been figured out yet by everyone in the NL.
But punting catchers in a 2 C league is not a sound gameplan. I may have to offer up an arm or SBs for a serviceable C at some point in time this year. Meh.....
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Re:hurler draft 4 Months, 1 Week ago
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Spike-
It seems like you punted strikeouts. You don't have enough dominant pitching to compete in the pitching categories. And your best pitcher is also a very risky one in Carp. I hope he stays healthy. On a good note you got Heyward at a nice price and Kelly Johnson is low risk w/fair possibility of a good payoff. But Johnson did suck really bad last year, make no mistake. You definitely have too many corners (7 guys with 1B eligbility- WTF?) and not enough up the middle (other than Jacoby, where are the steals coming from? Reynolds ain't getting 24 again)....Sorry, not intimidated by the Crackers  Looking forward to some more cards in the mail, buddy.
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I'll start with Spike's Atlanta Crackers: Your first 4 picks were about as solid as could be. Arod is the right pick at no 3. Ellsbury helps out more in other categories than folks give him credit for and is good at that point in the second.
It would have been very tough for me to pass up J-Roll for Vmart at that point in the third. But in a 2 catcher league the catcher position displaces SS as the toughest position to fill and you have got to bump those catchers up the board. Plus looking back to see your first pick in last years draft explains that situation.
Reynolds is good at 46 overall and gives you added 1B/3B flexibility aong with some insane '09 HR/SB numbers. I have written on FH about my man crush on Billy Butler, but I must admit I have not considered taking him as early as pick 51. Since you had a 3b and a 1b I probably would have taken A Ram, N Cruz or Haren and then would have been pissed when his 20hr and 50 doubles from '09 are transformed into 35hr/35doubles with a .300 avg. I will add that I do like BB over D Lee.
As long as you get 180+ inn out of Carpenter you'l be golden here. I personally take Wainwright over Carp due to his DL time although I am in the minority for sure. Either was a sweet pick at 75 and my favorite pick of all the crackers is Beckett at 94. People do not give enough credit to the effect that defense has on a pitcher's stats. They always talk about stadiums but that only affects 81 games while that defense goes on the road with you. Boston improved their defense more than any other team in the majors in the offseason, going from one of the worst to one of the best. That will bode well for the Bosox pitchers. I had a tough time deciding between Beckett and Hamels at 87. However, I already had Lester and I do not like putting all my eggs on one club if I can help it.
Baker is fine at 99 but I would have been pissed when I saw Cain go at 98. A healthy Berkman will pay great dividends. I really like Yunel. If I was drafting sans SS at pik 123, I would have been scared to let him go.
Marmol went earlier than I would have thought but so did every other closer in this draft. In rounds 11-14 approx one third of the picks were closers! I got Wagner in the 13th and then just gave up.
I think Cuddyer will fall off some this yr but he is OK at 147 and again that dual elig pays off throughout the season. Reimold was going to be my next pick and I really like him there. Adam Laroche is good value at 171. Who cares when he gets the stats as long as he gets them. Plus you gotta have a 6th qualifier at 1B! Escobar is prob my favorite of the super young SS and works well as a MI.
All those pins in Sloweys wrist caused me to add him to my "out of consideration" list, but he is surely tearing it up this spring. Kuroda is about as solid as you are going to get in the 18th.
I had a list with me at the draft of guys with insanely high Yahoo ADP. I started going over it just in time to miss out on Heyward and Liriano. With his lack of experience, Heyward will probably only accumulate about 60% of the stats he will be getting in '11 or '12 but for the 19th rd he is gold as long as he goes north and it sure looks like he will.
Sizemore is not much of a gamble for a MI this late. Santana should hit whenever he is called up and could prove to be more valuable in 80 games than most full season catchers. I would probably have drafted Rodney, M Adams, or Lyon over Saito but it's not like any of them have a closer job. Kelly Johnson was a great choice I think. I think he will be much improved this year.
A lot of people are high on Feldman especially when he is on the road. Your next pick really pissed me off. I just did not realize Conor Jackson was available when I was throwing up outfield turds for my 2 prior selections. Conor Jackson is not going to contend for the silver slugger in the OF, but he is exactly what you need in the 26th rd! Not to mention he becomes 1B qualifier number 7! Gotta love it. Marson is the warm body stand in for Santana and i would pray that Santana gets the call sooner rather than later.
Well, this is much longer than I had planned, but once I get on a roll I just cant stop. I will try to produce a worthless critique another team in the next couple of days.

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Last Edit: 2010/03/17 22:37 By Glenn1.
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While I did feel pretty good about the draft, I would feel a lot better if Glenn didn't decide to take em all. Every. Single. Time. (Slight exaggeration)
Also, I came into the draft with a strategy. Try to win all pitching categories or come close, get solid BA numbers, and then for my final 3 OFs grab Juan Pierre, Scott Podsednik and Brett Gardner, possibly winning steals. Anyway, we will see, I may still be able to pull that off if i can get 25-35 apiece out of Furcal amd Jeter.
I am banking on my counting stats in hitting will be enough to hold about 5-6th, which may be enough as long as I pick up double digits in each pitching category and steals.
Again, this is my first real stab at Roto, so we will see how it works, it is definitely a much harder system than H2H because you cannot completely punt whole stats.
I'd love to hear some criticism, and there is a lot to criticize. Still, I think I have a good enough foundation to maximize production throughout the season. The good news about roto is that, if you are struggling in home runs, just go pick up jack cust for 2 weeks, etc. I'm sure it is harder than it looks, but it will be fun to test some methods against real competition.
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Eric-
Your big investment in your pitching staff is noticeable as I scroll down your lineup. Some really strong arms should give you a nice leg up on the competition. And I like the late round flier on Nathan- you'll know in a couple weeks whether or not he's worth holding onto and if he is that's a huge score for you. Few areas of concern, though, with your offense as paying a high price for pitching always costs you in other places. First, you mention possibly winning steals. I don't see it happening unless you make some changes. That lineup stole 161 bases last year and Furcal, Jeter, Pods are all on the wrong side of thirty. Gardner may or may not see 250 at bats again now that Granderson is in NY, so I think matching that total would be a huge accomplishment. Also, matching power numbers from last year could be a challenge. Branyan- not sure he can do that again, plus his back is a problem waiting to happen. Damon- not a chance of 25 HRs in Detroit, no short RF porch/wind tunnel for him like last year. I like Pence but is he capable of more than 30 HRs? Ross has nice pop and can match last year's total but hard to see Cantu knocking in 100 again. He was on fire in April, then took May, June, July and August off until heating back up again in September.
I have drafted teams like this before and regretted it when offense is compromised in order to have so much pitching. You paid a lot for your closers, and Street getting hurt absolutely did you no favors. You'd best do everything in your power to win that category, otherwise those picks for Rivera and Broxton were better spent on some more offense. I always feel that if you draft closers that high, you'd better be all over their handcuffs as well. I just saw the two Rockies handcuffs go to other teams today. D'oh. I guess I'd keep an open mind to offering Zambrano up for a useable OFer if he starts off well. He's so talented yet equally as volatile. He does have worth to the right owner, especially someone light on pitching. I'd offer him to Spike for one of those sixteen 1B he is holding, ideally one with OF eligibility. Honestly, you could really, really use a third or fourth OF in a bad way. Could be a win-win for both of you....
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thanks glenn. as far as too many 1b , that may not turn out to be the case. cuddyer and jackson will see almost all of their ab in crackers o f. with berkman`s health concerns , i`m glad to have a #1 bench guy like laroche as a full-time fill-in and insurance policy. ellsbury was my most valuable player last year , aiding in my best category score 2nd for sb. power was specifically targeted at the corners and u b/c last season i finished 10th in hr and 8th in both r and rbi. that will not happen this time. i was careful not to take on any more low ba after reynolds and i`m hoping alcides will contribute sb to provide balance. ethier was my consolation prize for passing on cruz. i`ll need another sp for sure but will find one at minimum cost from waivers. no point paying big for a zambrano type who will ruin my ratios in exchange for k
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